Sep 12

Big Knuckles and Spinning Rings? Try the Butterfly Spring!

By Calla Gold

Gold Ring with Butterfly Spring Clasp

White Gold Butterfly Spring on Yellow Gold Top Heavy Ring

Do You Have Large Knuckles? Do Your Rings Spin?

Do you have a big gem ring you’ve given up on because it won’t stay upright? Is it sad and alone in the bottom of your jewelry box?

You Want to Hear Joan’s Story and What We Did For Her and Her Spinning Ring?

Joan had a gorgeous top-heavy blue topaz and diamond ring that spun around her finger every time she wore it. It constantly slipped sideways bumping into the fingers on either side.

Aside from the annoyance factor and having to adjust it every five minutes, Joan and her problem-solving-jeweler (me), agreed that a ring tilted sideways all the time, just wasn’t a good look.

It’s Not Your Ring Size That’s the Problem, It’s Your Knuckle!

Joan’s problem with her top-heavy ring was that the size she needed it to be to fit over her knuckle was way bigger than her finger behind her knuckle.

Wedding Ring with Butterfly Spring

This Butterfly Spring, Keeps Jo’s Diamonds From Being on the Bottom of Her Hand

Basically, her knuckle was a couple of sizes bigger than her finger—not an uncommon condition.

The “Knuckle to Finger Differential” (My Name for This Important Measurement)

The difference between the size of your knuckle and the size of your finger behind it, is your Knuckle to Finger Differential. If it exceeds one or two sizes, rings become hard, if not impossible, to wear comfortably.

That was Joan’s problem. I explained to Joan that sizing the ring tighter wouldn’t solve her problem. First, she had a top-heavy ring that gravity was always trying to pull down, and Second, Joan had a big Knuckle to Finger Differential. What she needed was a “Butterfly Spring” for her pretty ring.

This video will help you to establish your knuckle to finger differential which helps your jeweler to determine if you need one of the large knuckle ring solutions and which would suit your finger and your ring style the best.

 

The Butterfly Spring

A Butterfly Spring is thin strip of springy metal that fits onto the inside bottom of the shank of a ring. It flattens out when going over the knuckle but once the ring’s in place, it springs up and grips the finger to help prevent the ring from spinning.

How Did It Work for Joan?

Joan’s ring needed to be a size 9 to fit over her knuckle but a size 7 once resting on the bottom of her finger.

Once I’d sized her ring to 9 and soldered in a Butterfly Spring the ring slipped over her knuckle and didn’t spin anymore. Joan was thrilled! “I can wear my ring again!” she said.

Speed Bumps for Rings That Spin

Speed Bumps for a Little Bit of Ring Support From Spinning

You Have Other Choices if You Have Large Knuckles

Speed Bumps help if you have a slightly enlarged knuckle.

See my Blog post all about Speed Bumps.

Butterfly Springs help if you have a larger knuckle to finger differential. They also help with top heavy rings that just won’t stand upright!

Hinged Ring Shanks work when you have very enlarged knuckles.

See my Blog post all about Hinged Ring Shanks and Finger Mate Shanks!

Hinged shank by Fingermate installed by Calla Gold Jewelry

Hinged Ring Shank. This One is by Fingermate Corp.

“Wear it, don’t warehouse it.”

Calla Gold

 

 

 

Big Knuckle Blog Round Up

Ring Spin or Ring Flop…One Possible Solution – Speed Bumps

Big Knuckles and Spinning Rings? Try the Butterfly Spring!

Solving Spinning Stacking Ring Problem with Speed Bumps

Finger Mate Hinging Shank for Rings for Enlarged Knuckles

How to Figure Out Your Knuckle to Finger Differential for Rings

33 thoughts on “Big Knuckles and Spinning Rings? Try the Butterfly Spring!

  1. I never even knew those options existed. You brilliant rascal, you! I am one of the big knuckled people of the world.

    • Kymberly, thanks for reading and sharing. Big knuckles and how they effect the fit of your rings is an issue for a lot of women. I’m hoping the word gets out that there are a number of potential handlings for this. Calla

  2. How cool! Calla Gold, I know women who have enlarged knuckles, it’s like a death sentence for their rings which they quit wearing, including their wedding rings.
    Your can-do Calla Gold attitude that you should wear your jewelry because it is yours and just try these solutions to spinning rings is really cool!
    Such a neat quick fix. It’s not even super difficult. And it sure beats not wearing your rings!

    • You are just so right Alison! Thanks for telling me about your friends, hopefully they see this blog post.
      The butterfly spring is like a miracle to some clients. By keeping the “up” part of their ring “up,” it also saves their gems from getting too banged around.
      Calla

  3. Who will install the butterfly spring. I got my rings at Kay jewlers and they just have balls to install and dont even know what they charge for it..

    • Ashley,
      If you live near Santa Barbara, call me to install your butterfly spring. If you live out of the area, choose a jewelry store that does their own repairs and does custom work. Measuring you for the proper size for your butterfly spring is almost more an art than a science. If you find a jeweler you really like, they can contact me and I’ll give them some technical advice to help them do it correctly for you.
      Calla Gold

  4. Hello Calla Gold, Can butterfly springs be made out of platinum, too? I would like to get one for a platinum engagement ring. Also, how long does it take to have one put on a ring-having the butterfly spring sized, created, and set?

    Thank you!

    • Harmony, I’ll respond in a private email. I need to ask you questions about size, width and other details about your ring to do a proper bid.
      Calla Gold

  5. Calla what about men’s rings? Can they have the butterfly spring put in? My fiance is going to have a heck of a time finding a ring that will fit because of his knuckle to finger ratio.

    • Welcome Kelsey,
      Men’s rings can indeed have a butterfly spring put in. I’ve only installed two butterfly springs on men’s rings because so many men wear plain bands and it matters not if they spin.
      But with a ring with a defined top or crown area, if your man has a large knuckle to finger ratio a butterfly spring may be the only viable way to help keep the crown area pointed to the sky!
      Thank you for asking and giving me a chance to answer your excellent question.
      Your Personal Jeweler,
      Calla

  6. Hello Calla Gold,
    For one with small hands, i seem to have a knuckle issue with rings. Nice to know about the butterfly spring, I like the name too!
    Jackie

    • Hi Jackie,
      The butterfly spring might help your rings stay upright on your small hands.
      I’ll tell you one person who could use a butterfly spring, Mariah Carey on American Idol. She has a butterfly ring that flops ridiculously. She’s one butterfly spring away from a properly flying butterfly ring!
      Calla Gold

  7. Can the Butterfly spring be sodered on a Titanum mans band? My boyfriend has a plastic knuckle and his ring has to be big enough to go over the knuckle but that it is too loose for his finger and slides up and down.

  8. The plastic knuckle is a replacement for the bone that was crushed. It was done 40 years ago so technology is much better now I am sure.

    • Hi Kathy,
      Thanks for letting me know. I’m glad they were able to come up with a solution to a crushed bone 40 years ago.
      Calla

  9. Hi Calla, do you know of any jeweler in the St Louis area who can install a butterfly spring?

    • Hi Julie,
      I’ll look in my contacts and see who I know that does butterfly springs. Give me a bit of time and I’ll email you. Thanks for asking.
      Your Butterfly Spring Jeweler,
      Calla

    • Dear Julie,
      Call John David Jewelers 314-997-4560
      They do butterfly springs and come highly recommended by a trusted jeweler.
      I think you’ll be quite pleased with it.
      Your Personal Jeweler,
      Calla

  10. Hi Calla,
    I never heard of Butterfly Springs either – what a great solution! I need to learn how to do it – would you mind telling me how you make and install them?
    BTW, I shared this on Facebook. For some reason your name didn’t”pop up”so I couldn’t tag you.
    – – Nan

    • Hi Nan,
      Thank you for sharing my blog post. It didn’t tag me because though we like each other’s Facebook business pages since we aren’t “friends” on FB tagging is disabled. At least I think that’s why.
      The installing is a number of steps as each butterfly is custom made in width and length. But each ring needs to be evaluated as not all rings are candidates.
      But more complex is the measuring of the person’s finger to determine if this solution is the right one. And then how to size the ring before installing the butterfly spring so that it fits. It’s too complex to answer here. Suffice it to say that seeing women not wearing their wedding rings because of their larger knuckles was a heart-breaker for me and I made it a specialty to find out what I could do about it.
      Thank you for sharing it on Facebook. Every little share helps!
      Your Jeweler Friend,
      Calla Gold

  11. Wow, finally a possible solution for my ring. Is there a jeweler in the Washington,DC area that you can recommend that does butterfly springs?

    Thanks, Jo

    • Hello Jo,
      I’m so pleased that my post on butterfly springs may provide an answer to your problem.
      Since I wrote that article I have received quite a number of inquiries asking for referrals in people’s general area for jewelers. I do not know of the jewelers in your area. I would recommend reaching out to a jeweler that does a lot of custom jewelry design work. The type of jewelry store that is more family owned that stresses one of a kind work.
      Print out the post and go in and ask if they do this kind of work.
      Ask them how they’d figure out the right size for you. If they can answer that pretty well and have done custom work that’ll probably work fine.
      They could call me too if they want to know how I do it.
      Your Personal Jeweler,
      Calla

  12. Hi Calla,

    I’ve seen this on rings before & never knew what they did. I have so many top heavy rings that don’t sit still on my fingers & it’s really annoying, to the point I where I don’t even wear them anymore. Thank you for all your helpful info, I’m so glad there’s a solution for this problem. Can you please recommend someone in the San Diego or Northern S.D. area that can do this & has good reviews.

    All the Best,
    Gina

  13. can you do the butterfly spring in rings if we were to ship it to you? And can you do it on tungsten rings?

  14. I’m in love with a silver plated ring that just isn’t made in my size. If I bought it in one size up, do you think this would work for me?

    • Hello Erin,
      Expect it to tend to spin. If it is a simple band style that doesn’t matter if it spins it’d be less of a problem. Some silver plated rings can be sized. Have you been told what the underlying metal is?
      Doing a butterfly spring would be much more costly than just having it sized and re-plated. That would be my first choice. Not all jewelers try to fix or size plated rings. Don’t let one no make you think it can’t be done. I’m not promising it can’t be done, but I have done it many times. There are some rings I’ve had to say no to.
      Your Personal Jeweler,
      Calla

  15. Cala. I reset my grandmothers diamond ring. Ring never fit. Too tight with ring guard. Too big without it. Jeweler dismissed me. I’m so angry. I paid a lot for setting. I live in nyc and boynton beach florida. Can you refer me to a jeweler. thanks. Joan.

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